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Agar · Feb 13, 2010, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Just a quick question, why we have to max treasure hunter and wisdom titles to add them to the HoM instead of reaching rank 2 or 3 like the rest of the titles? Doesnt realy make any sense to me...

Orry · Feb 13, 2010, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Treasure Hunter and Wisdom were originally single-character titles as opposed to account based, they changed it to make it easier to max. Single character titles all require max rank to put in the hall of monuments.

X Ghoul · Feb 14, 2010, 05:06 AM // 05:06

You can farm gold eggs for 2hrs and get r2 treasure, and waste some amount of xxxk for wisdom which makes it far too easy for r2 or r3 of each title. 6 is more reasonable but even at that, you might as well go max

Arduin · Feb 14, 2010, 08:56 AM // 08:56

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Originally Posted by X Ghoul

You can farm gold eggs for 2hrs and get r2 treasure, and waste some amount of xxxk for wisdom which makes it far too easy for r2 or r3 of each title. 6 is more reasonable but even at that, you might as well go max

Because spending 30 hours AFK on Nine Rings for tier 2 Lucky is hard.

revelation · Feb 14, 2010, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by Arduin

Because spending 30 hours AFK on Nine Rings for tier 2 Lucky is hard.

At least it is expensive, and you can't run other games while AFK at GW

Deviant Angel · Feb 14, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by revelation

At least it is expensive, and you can't run other games while AFK at GW

Say whaaaaat? *stewie head tilt*

I've been playing other games the entire time I've been on my ring. Aside from either having a sucky computer or simply not having any other games, why wouldn't you be able to?

Arduin · Feb 14, 2010, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by revelation

At least it is expensive...

Yes, because spending 88k for tier 2 Lucky on Nine Rings is more expensive than buying 250*600g (150k) keys for tier 2 Treasure Hunter....

Agar · Feb 14, 2010, 12:56 PM // 12:56

IMO they should change it so Treasure Hunter and Wisdom can be added in HoM at rank 3 like the rest of them. Not people have the time/will to spend thousands of platinum and run around opening chest after chest just to max 2 titles.

Tenebrae · Feb 14, 2010, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by Agar

IMO they should change it so Treasure Hunter and Wisdom can be added in HoM at rank 3 like the rest of them. I dont have the time/will to spend thousands of platinum and run around opening chest after chest just to max 2 titles.

Yeah , fixed. Me me me and then me again. Dont have the time ? dont do it , no one forces you , no one is going to blame you . If you dont do it , your game play is not affected.
Same applies for 90% of the titles. Think before writing ....

HawkofStorms · Feb 14, 2010, 03:59 PM // 15:59

/notsigned

The point of titles isn't to just have them maxed (look at PvP titles and gamer).

Now, if the reward in GW2 from the HoM for the treasure hunter and wisdom titles was to be some insanely useful thing, I might agree with you. Chances are, it will be something really simple and cosmetic though, so no big deal.

Agar · Feb 14, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Yeah , fixed. Me me me and then me again. Dont have the time ? dont do it , no one forces you , no one is going to blame you . If you dont do it , your game play is not affected.
Same applies for 90% of the titles. Think before writing ....

10.000 chests to unlock the achievement? I mean come on! Isnt that stupid? Most the HoM achievements are ment to reward players that stayed with Guild wars in the long run. Although its kinda pointless to talk about that since Anet havent even told us how HoM will work and what we will get for every monument or achievement added, Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points. Iam not talking about maxing a title which indeed requires some effort, iam talking about LOWERING THE REQ TO ADD IT TO HoM! And HoM in other words is a "thank you" from Anet for playing GW all these years and not a way for Hardcore players to show off when the new game is released.

You confuse a prestige title in game with a reward for playing Guild Wars in the long run.

sixdartbart · Feb 14, 2010, 05:28 PM // 17:28

This thread is why they should have NEVER made any title be able to be put in HOM until it was maxed.

Do 1 thing to make anything a bit easier on people and they start screaming that everything should be easier.

NO HOPE for our future!!!

Puddin Cheeks · Feb 14, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

As i have said before, Grandmaster Treasure Hunter > than GWAMM by far.

upier · Feb 14, 2010, 06:17 PM // 18:17

My ritualist has the most maxed titles out of all the guys on my account - I think he just reached his 10th maxed title after I AFKed my way to max Lucky today. I also stopped playing him a few months ago because I got bored of him. Which means I am back at square one on my assassin (well not exactly - I think he's currently at 5 max titles) - or maybe even my ranger because I am now toying with the idea of maining my new ranger (who really is at square 1 - he's currently still in the process of getting his Survivor).
The problem with titles is that they dictate a very specific way to play the game. And given the number of titles available and the number of titles needed for GWAMM - you don't get much choice in how you want to achieve it. So if GW2 bonuses are tied to GWAMM achievements, those of us that find this very much grindy way to play GW to be to boring will be put in the position of players that never even played GW.
Regardless of the fact that some of us probably have more playtime than the massive majority of the GW players.

This isn't going to be a problem if ALL the GW2 bonuses will be achieved by having something like 10 or 15 titles in your HoM, with a few weapons and minies. But if the only way to get all the GW2 bonuses is going to be to have ALL the GW achievements then the massive grind in GW needs to be toned down.

Agar · Feb 14, 2010, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by upier

My ritualist has the most maxed titles out of all the guys on my account - I think he just reached his 10th maxed title after I AFKed my way to max Lucky today. I also stopped playing him a few months ago because I got bored of him. Which means I am back at square one on my assassin (well not exactly - I think he's currently at 5 max titles) - or maybe even my ranger because I am now toying with the idea of maining my new ranger (who really is at square 1 - he's currently still in the process of getting his Survivor).
The problem with titles is that they dictate a very specific way to play the game. And given the number of titles available and the number of titles needed for GWAMM - you don't get much choice in how you want to achieve it. So if GW2 bonuses are tied to GWAMM achievements, those of us that find this very much grindy way to pay GW to boring will be put in the position of players that never even played GW.
Regardless of the fact that some of us probably have more playtime than the massive majority of the GW players.

This isn't going to be a problem if ALL the GW2 bonuses will be achieved by having something like 10 or 15 titles in your HoM, with a few weapons and minies. But if the only way to get all the GW2 bonuses is going to be to have ALL the GW achievements then the massive grind in GW needs to be toned down.

I totaly agree with you but if i remember well one of the developers told a guy that each achievement you unlock will give you something in GW2. I kinda find this a little bit stupid because people will walk out of there with 932131231231890238123 cosmetic junk.... I just hope they are tied to GWAMM and you will just need to fill the monuments to get the rewards. We will find out when they decide to give us a little bit more info.

Bug John · Feb 14, 2010, 09:57 PM // 21:57

spending thousands of platinum to add wisdom and treasure hunter to hom, but just a few hundred for most of the other titles is not logical

for titles that are nothing more than a gold sink and involve that much grind, anet should lower the requirements to hom

the same applies to drunkard and other money titles imo

Tenebrae · Feb 14, 2010, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Agar

Most the HoM achievements are ment to reward players that stayed with Guild wars in the long run. Although its kinda pointless to talk about that since Anet havent even told us how HoM will work and what we will get for every monument or achievement added,

Stop there. You already answered yourself. That is what YOU think , and you are basing your petition on YOUR theories. Even if someone agrees , it doesnt matter, some ppl will not ( like me ) and thats it.

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Originally Posted by Agar

Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points.

That was .... 4 years ago ? soz pal , you are wrong since HM came in and with it the infamous titles or "wordsbelowyournametoshowoff".

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Originally Posted by Agar

You confuse a prestige title in game with a reward for playing Guild Wars in the long run.

You confuse your opinion with the truth. I dont think that ppl who played GW1 , 1 year should have easier time than ppl who played it since it came out but shit happens. Thats why they put some "rules" to give those "rewards". They arent going to be so great and not having HoM full is not going to affect your gameplay so theres no reason to make any change.

Titles are titles , some are easy , some hard , some short , some long , some for the skilled to achieve in short time , some grind as hell with almost no skill involved ...... thats it.

PD: Yes , Max THunter is annoying , i have it .

Verene · Feb 14, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Agar

Guild Wars has a no grind philosophy, its one of its selling points.

No. It has a no required grind philosophy. You are not required to grind Treasure Hunter or Wisdom or Lucky or any of those titles. It is completely optional.

upier · Feb 14, 2010, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Verene

No. It has a no required grind philosophy. You are not required to grind Treasure Hunter or Wisdom or Lucky or any of those titles. It is completely optional.

Don't like, don't do it?
Sure, it's PvE so it works!
But is it really good for the game? Is the game really better with this much grind?

Fay Vert · Feb 14, 2010, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Bug John

spending thousands of platinum to add wisdom

Spending thousands of platinum just to get a title is wise?